You just stay around to keep the tools, you just stay around to keep the tools! You think that we're all fools, you just stay around to keep the tools! Making minute edits every year, you make minute edits every year! We can see it's very clear, you make minute edits every year! Users such as yourself who make a significantly low amount of edits just to keep your administrative tools sicken me and many others. Just give up the tools already!!! What are you holding on to them for anyways!! What a selfish thing to do!!
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Congratulations, Serial Number 54129! The article you nominated, John Minsterworth, has been promoted to featured status, recognizing it as one of the best articles on Wikipedia. The nomination discussion has been archived.This is a rare accomplishment and you should be proud. If you would like, you may nominate it to appear on the Main page as Today's featured article. Keep up the great work! Cheers, Gog the Mild (talk) via FACBot (talk) 00:05, 23 April 2022 (UTC)Reply
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Congratulations, Serial Number 54129! The article you nominated, Richard Roose, has been promoted to featured status, recognizing it as one of the best articles on Wikipedia. The nomination discussion has been archived.This is a rare accomplishment and you should be proud. If you would like, you may nominate it to appear on the Main page as Today's featured article. Keep up the great work! Cheers, Gog the Mild (talk) via FACBot (talk) 01:12, 15 March 2023 (UTC)Reply
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Congratulations, Serial Number 54129! The article you nominated, Order of Brothelyngham, has been promoted to featured status, recognizing it as one of the best articles on Wikipedia. The nomination discussion has been archived.This is a rare accomplishment and you should be proud. If you would like, you may nominate it to appear on the Main page as Today's featured article. Keep up the great work! Cheers, Gog the Mild (talk) via FACBot (talk) 00:05, 3 July 2023 (UTC)Reply
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You've got your way - I won't take part in the GA process or any discussions about the GA process - so why are you twisting the knife? If you don't have the power to ban me from the GA process like you claim, THEN HOW ON EARTH have you the right to demand that I am not allowed to post on my own user page, or to demand that I "get back to work". What "work" am I allowed to do? Who gets to decide it? Are you trying to drive me off the project - if so you are doing a good job of it. I don't want to continue this discussion, so please don't.Nigel Ish (talk) 14:42, 5 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
Although thinking about it, continuing a discussion on someone's talk page is an odd way of 'not wanting to continue' a discussion that Nigel Ish started in by now *checks notes* two other venues, and has now also taken to Users:Kyteto's and Thebiguglyalien's talk pages, ywo completely inoffensive editors who have somehow earned Nigel Ish's ire. Or perhaps not enough people were paying him attention. SerialNumber5412918:10, 5 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
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You made mention of my name on the page of the IP. I like to clarify that my user name is not connected to my eagerness of getting people banned but is connected to the nickname of the county I live in: The Banner County, also known as County Clare. The Bannertalk15:34, 13 December 2024 (UTC)Reply
Sorry The Banner, I get you! I hadn't made that connection myself actually, but it's quite apt dealing with characters like that!That's a lovely part of the world. I used to spend holidays in Limerick, so I've seen a bit of it. And a couple of powerful nights in Ennis. An Contae an Chláir abú, as they say! SerialNumber54129A New Face in Hell16:38, 13 December 2024 (UTC)Reply
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Hi Serial Number,
I think that in Special:Diff/1263266684, you may have erroneously pinged me when you meant to have pinged the editor who started the thread (Budisgood).
You're right, how dare I! In any case, I imagine just had my username in your head as the admin who had asked the question, and wrote that down instead of the intended user. Happens to the best of us. :) — Red-tailed hawk(nest)18:35, 15 December 2024 (UTC)Reply
Wishing you and yours a Happy Holiday Season, from the horse and bishop person. May the year ahead be productive and distraction-free. Ealdgyth (talk) 15:26, 17 December 2024 (UTC)Reply
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Hello everyone, and welcome to the 26th issue of the Wikipedia Scripts++ Newsletter, covering all our favorite new and updated user scripts since 1 August 2024. At press time, over 94% of the world has legally fallen prey to the merry celebrations of "Christmas", and so shall you soon. It's been a quiet 4 months, and we hope to see you with way more new scripts next year. Happy holidays! Aaron Liu (talk) 05:06, 25 December 2024 (UTC)Reply
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@TheTechie: Yeah, sure. No idea when; that's inside baseball stuff. But it needed reviewing, I reviewed it, now it passes to the next stage. This page shows the different processes it goes through; also see WP:QPQ. It doesn't take quite as long as that page might make it seem. To talk to editors who are more... immersed, shall we say, in the process than me (e.g. For timescales, etc), have a look at the DYK talk page. Congratulations :) Serial(speculates here)20:10, 22 January 2025 (UTC)Reply
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Sorry, meant to write this last night and my battery ran out just as I was wrapping up. I'm not quite sure what you mean by "entailed in the male line"; the barony of Cromwell was created by writ of summons, so heritable by heirs general, rather than heirs male. The situation on Cromwell's death is exactly that described in Abeyance#History: no account is taken of the relative seniority of daughters, so the title lapses when their are coheirs. (I rewrote the phrase "could not be split between two female heirs" because to me that implies there are circumstances under which a peerage could be split.) Payling just says "elevated to the Peerage as Lord Cromwell, a promotion facilitated by Neville's death four weeks earlier", so I don't feel that I broke source-text integrity on the rewrite (I wouldn't defile one of your articles like that!). Indeed, Cokayne says on p. 554, note "b" that Bourchier "was not a coheir himself", so I'm reluctant to describe him as "remaining heir", as the article does now. I don't want to encumber Neville's article with legal finicking that's rather tangential to the man himself, but I do think the phrasing should reflect peerage law a little more closely; I'd like to hear your thoughts.
As you saw, I spun up a stub on Humphrey Bourchier, 1st Baron Cromwell, which you might be able to pad out from some of the sources you've used, especially Payling. It looks as though Payling is writing his biography for HoP (he must have been in the Commons as well before 1461), which will make interesting reading when it comes out. There's an episode in his history which I don't quite understand: Bourchier becomes chamberlain of the receipt again at Edward's accession in 1461. In 1464, John Leynton, who as the legal mind among Ralph, Lord Cromwell's executors had presumably been sparring with Neville & Bourchier, is appointed auditor of the receipt, and in the next year receives, fide the Calendar of Patent Rolls, "a writing of Humphrey Bourgchier, knight, lord Cromwell, one of the chamberlains of the receipt of the Exchequer, under his seal at arms dated 31 August, 5 Edward IV, granting to the said John for life the said office of one of the chamberlains of the receipt of the Exchequer with the appointment of one of the ushers of the Exchequer and other officers, as granted to himself by letters patent dated 17 July, 4 Edward IV". Apparently Humphrey wasn't supposed to be alienating his office, as the writing is enrolled along with "pardon to the said Humphrey and John of their trespasses in this matter; and confirmation to the said John for life of the said office and all fees thereof." That seems rather relevant to the state of the settlement in the 1460s, and I'm a bit surprised it didn't come into Payling's piece!
Richard Beauchamp, 2nd Baron Beauchamp may also be of interest to you given your recent work: there's an unsourced paragraph there that brings his wife's adultery into the trial of Burdet and Stacy, although the Croyland Chronicle is ambiguous about which Lord Beauchamp's wife was implicated (the 1st or 2nd).
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Hi there Serial Number 54129, I am trying to initiate a discussion about clarifying the notability criteria mass-casualty transportation accidents for posting to ITN. Because you participated in the debate on the nom for 2025 Guatemala City bus crash which was the catalyst for this proposed discussion, I thought I might notify you in case you are interested. FlipandFlopped ツ07:30, 13 February 2025 (UTC)Reply
Thank you for your patience at explaining the policy regarding FA that backs your revert.
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Yo 'Zilla, well intoned! It was like finding and old pair of slippers and finding them as comfortable as you remember. Something else... it's a bit garish for me nowadays, but remember the sig... :) MuffledPocketed20:37, 16 February 2025 (UTC)Reply
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On 18 February 2025, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Thomas Burdet, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Thomas Burdet supposedly plotted treason against King Edward IV in 1477 after he killed Burdet's favourite white deer? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Thomas Burdet. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Thomas Burdet), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
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Pleased to see you've got him promoted to FA. The new title is just the job, and don't forget you can post any number of redirects (as I've been doing today for a modest little article about a musical piece with various possible titles.) Tim riley talk16:59, 21 February 2025 (UTC)Reply
There was little point in joining the discussion after all, since it got rewritten as a result of either completely misunderstanding the topic or a personal desire to remove any possible iota or actual interest from the hook. It would have shown more integrity to have just pulled it, but when was that ever an inconvenience! Fortuna,ImperatrixMundi15:27, 9 March 2025 (UTC)Reply
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On 1 March 2025, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Butt of malmsey, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that a butt of malmsey was required to make "Tyre that is excellent", as part of a mixture of "fat Bastard, two gallons of Cute [and] Parrel? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Butt of malmsey. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Butt of malmsey), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
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Hi! From what I read, the discussion appears to be still active, and some users such as User:JayCubby are still working on new icon proposals, so I don't think the opposition can really be described as unanimous. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 17:45, 5 March 2025 (UTC)Reply
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Well, I can see where it is certainly available by the case full. They've been twice now final warned. Might want to post to ANI the next time they open up a bottle. Best, -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:10, 8 March 2025 (UTC)Reply
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Obviously, it is irrelevant now, given that the issue brought up is resolved, but I don't see how I was edit warring. I reverted an edit that you went on to restore without discussion, which would seem to go against WP:BRD. I don't get how I would be the one edit warring in that situation. JeffSpaceman (talk) 20:01, 8 March 2025 (UTC)Reply
It is an admin noticeboard. If an admin places templates then it is common sense to wear it. Whole the board is not the sole preserve of admins, your reverts were not covered by WPO:3RRNO: everything else is edit warring.Incidentally, MASSIVE LOL at the templates having been restored by someone else. Even so, hope you have a grand Saturday night! Fortuna,ImperatrixMundi20:08, 8 March 2025 (UTC)Reply
You're right on the first point, I didn't even think about that. I'll make sure to remember that going forward to avoid embarrassing myself. JeffSpaceman (talk) 20:11, 8 March 2025 (UTC)Reply
FYI - technically TWO refineries in that immediate area. And to be really boring, as it is already refined to a finished product, the Jet A-1 load doesn't require a refinery, but it will benefit us all if it enters the underground pipe delivery system that they surely have access to, saving several thousand lorries on the road.
Don't worry - both locations were already covered by existing sources, once I had taken the trouble to dig past the misleading headlines. BTW there is an edit-war brewing up over allision (not for the first time), and I cannot believe you let it slide so easily, so please enlighten me; what am I missing?
WendlingCrusader, ta. I did wonder how a tanker was going to, err, enter the refinery itself! If we can source the info re. pipelines etc, then it would be good to include it too, as others may also wonder the same thing.Why the fffff are people edit warring over one word. Just change allision to collision throughout, but keep the footnote explaining the technical difference. That way we follow the sources (all of which use the latter except for one trade publication) but demonstrate we are a serious academic project that can deal with technicalities also. Fortuna,ImperatrixMundi11:00, 11 March 2025 (UTC)Reply
Thx for your input; I'm still a novice editor (12 mths / <3,000 edits), with a tendency to a nervous disposition, so your words are valuable to me.
Regarding the underground pipelines; I haven't searched in any way yet, but I suspect a security issue will be invoked. In a previous life I worked for a Water Authority, and we were somewhat cagey about where our pipes were buried. However I do recall something to the effect that waaay back in WWII a pipeline was set-up to deliver aviation fuel for the US bombers in East Anglia. The only clue these days is that several domestic heating oil distributors are all located within a few miles of each other around Wymondham, which is a sleepy market town nowhere near any port or refinery!
Pfft - UK oil pipeline network - ok, maybe not as secret as I thought. And Killingholme is on the map (see under "Lindsey")!
To ensure safety and integrity, the pipeline is patrolled by helicopter every two weeks.
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On 16 March 2025, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article John Stacy (alchemist), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that John Stacy warned the Duke of Suffolk that a Tower would be dangerous to him; Suffolk was later murdered by sailors on a ship called The Nicholas of the Tower? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/John Stacy (alchemist). You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, John Stacy (alchemist)), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
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Thank you for taking action on the Patel RfC. A couple of questions:
1. how much longer should it say open?
2. Should the previous close decision be removed or hidden?
3. Should the RfC tag be added back? Dw31415 (talk) 15:56, 16 March 2025 (UTC), edited Dw31415 (talk) 12:43, 17 March 2025 (UTC)Reply
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Hi,
I see you put the edit warring template on my talk page. I see you did not do the same for the other editor. May I inquire as to why? They made the same number of reverts (12) as I did (12).
I do not appreciate being singled out. I do not appreciate your posting two notices on my talk page back to back, in an antagonistic manner. And most of all, I do not appreciate your lack of communication. Delectopierre (talk) 07:12, 20 March 2025 (UTC)Reply
(Fortuna, I hope you don't mind me stepping in) @Delectopierre: You received a warning notifying you that biographical articles of living or recently deceased people are considered a contentious topic area. Since you made an edit to Neil Mehta, it was appropriate for you to receive a contentious topic notice. If you had not received such a notice, you might have been blindsided by sanctions against you. You should follow the advice given in the notice Fortuna gave you. It was appropriate, helpful, and not written by Fortuna, who simply applied a template. See {{Contentious topics/alert/first}}. You received an edit warring notice from Fortuna as well. This edit warring notice was, again not written by Fortuna, but a template that was applied. See {{uw-ew}}. I'm sorry you find these standard notices to be "antagonistic", but they are the standard notices. It is clear from your editing history at Lifestance Health that you have been engaging in edit warring ([2],[3],[4]). Fortuna warning you of the consequences of edit warring was entirely appropriate. Lastly, could you please highlight where you attempted to interact with Fortuna and they failed to communicate with you? I'm not seeing it, either here or on your talk page. Thanks, --Hammersoft (talk) 14:53, 20 March 2025 (UTC)Reply
Thanks, @Hammersoft. I do appreciate your reply. I know that Fortuna didn't write the template.
I understand the implications of contentious topic editing, and I will point out that I wrote the Neil Mehta article, and the edits I recently made were well received.
Regarding the edit warring: It's not that I think I was in the right here. I was wrong, and I stopped. It's also not that Fortuna placed the template on my talk page. Again, I was wrong here, and I've stopped. But it takes two to tango, and Fortuna only placed the edit warring template on my talk page, not on the other editor's talk page, despite both of us making two edits in our now finished edit war. As I'm sure you know, point 2 on the template is Do not edit war even if you believe you are right. So why not put a template on both of our talk pages? I was hoping that Fortuna had an answer that was something besides 'to single you out'. But I don't know how else to explain it.
That which I just described, in combination with no reply when I inquired as to why the template was only placed on my talk page, is what I find to be antagonistic.
highlight where you attempted to interact with Fortuna and they failed to communicate This very thread. Fortuna made somewhere on the order of 50 edits over the course of two days -- including acknowledging other threads on this page -- but didn't reply to me. That's their choice, but I don't appreciate that my question wasn't acknowledged in any way. Delectopierre (talk) 21:53, 20 March 2025 (UTC)Reply
I will point out here that three different editors were reverting you at Lifestance Health. Usually in cases such as this the person who gets warned is the person who everyone else is reverting. Thanks for highlighting the lack of response. --Hammersoft (talk) 22:08, 20 March 2025 (UTC)Reply
Nonsense; [en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Opinion_polling_for_the_next_United_Kingdom_general_election&diff=prev&oldid=1280997409 lying edit summaries] are disruptive]. Anyone with eyes can see I did not "remove all the content"; but there are none so blind as those that will it see. I was going to reply to your message below conciliatorily, but there's clearly no point. Goodbye. Fortuna,ImperatrixMundi19:55, 18 March 2025 (UTC)Reply
If you wish to hang your argument on the difference between removing 98.5% of the content of the article vs. 100% of the content of the article and calling that "lying", you are of course free to do so. It will, however, have no effect on the consequences of engaging in such actions again. You were aware of the edit warring issue on the article, as you contributed to this thread before engaging in your attempts to gut the article. Despite being aware of it and the final warning on the article's talk page, despite being made aware of the overabundance of articles that use this sort of format, you decided to gut the article twice [5][6]. This is nothing short of disruptive. There are plenty of admins who would have blocked you already for it. The final warning stands. If you resume this sort of behavior you will be blocked. --Hammersoft (talk) 13:14, 19 March 2025 (UTC)Reply
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Every version of this edit notice contains lyrics of copyrighted songs. Thus, the editnotice is a copyright violation in all versions and needs to be deleted under WP:G12. Given our recent engagements, you might have thought it petty if I deleted it outright without raising the issue to you. Please request this to be deleted using {{Db-g12}}. Thank you, --Hammersoft (talk) 15:34, 18 March 2025 (UTC)Reply
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On 19 March 2025, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Roger Tocotes, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Roger Tocotes was suspected by the Duke of Clarence of masterminding the Duchess of Clarence's death, but Tocotes avoided capture until the King got involved? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Roger Tocotes. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Roger Tocotes), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
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Hi! I noticed you made a few edits to a page I recently created for the National Braille Press. Thank you for helping me to improve the page! I saw that you changed a lot of the information to be more concise, but that you also removed the sections about their Innovation Award and Gala entirely. I assume the reasoning for this was the sources because I saw you commented about primary sourcing. If I find new sources for both of these sections, Award and Gala, could I add the information on them back onto the page? Let me know what you think would be appropriate. Thanks! Serenat03 (talk) 21:41, 25 March 2025 (UTC)Reply
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""As a Signpost report notes" – assuming you want to take advice from someone who was banned by ArbCom not long after writing that; assuming you think the article endorsed that statement instead of repeating it as something some people sometimes say; assuming you think that an opinion posted in 2013 is generally shared today." -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:10, 27 March 2025 (UTC)Reply
Thank you for reverting the close, and thank for mentioning me in the context, - a first I believe. Instead of fixing the link mentioned below, you might reconsider that part of the comment also ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:41, 28 March 2025 (UTC)Reply
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I don’t see how or why you could have seen closing an ongoing RfC in a contentious topic as a non-admin as a good idea. The votes are 17 for, 11 against; while Wikipedia is not a democracy, most of the non-argument !votes are coming from the oppose side. Dronebogus (talk) 10:46, 27 March 2025 (UTC)Reply
There was a close request open for this particular RFC. Given the closing editor has participated in infobox discussions in the past this close should be voluntarily rescinded. I'm not convinced there's a consensus in that discussion, but a contentious topic should be closed by someone who hasn't been adamantly[7] involved[8] in the past. Nemov (talk) 14:04, 27 March 2025 (UTC)Reply
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This is a formal warning for this comment. Even if the link had worked it did not meet the expectations that exist for a contentious topic and was itself aggressive. I don't think you've been formally introduced to how contentious topics work, so I will be giving you the official template designed to introduce that topic below. Please let me know if you have any questions. Barkeep49 (talk) 16:25, 28 March 2025 (UTC)Reply
What part of "my personal experience with this user indicates they probably won’t budge" met the core expectation of good faith? The fact that you have not left a simlar warning for DB indicates that you do not take good faith as seriously as faux-civility; which, incidentally—although I admit I fucked up the ping—was a direct quotation, and, in the context of a demonstratable lack of good faith, perfectly reasonable, and indeed, accurate. Fortuna,ImperatrixMundi16:36, 28 March 2025 (UTC)Reply
Truthfully it was the entire comment including its aggressive start I am glad to prove you wrong, not that that's a particularly onerous exercise. The quote you made wasn't of Dronebogus but was of ScottishFinnishRadish who was responding to a good faith question from Dronebogus about their conduct and was offering direct feedback to that question. Context matters and you, as someone in conflict with Dronebogus, saying the same thing is very different than SFR offering it as feedback after being asked about it. My choosing to correct issues when I see them doesn't mean there aren't other issues and it doesn't mean that I have an obligation to police the entire topic area. As a volunteer I do work where I think I can add value, have an interest, and have availability; I expect this to be similar for most of us here and that volunteer ethos is something I really cherish about the Wikipedia community. Barkeep49 (talk) 16:49, 28 March 2025 (UTC)Reply
Please reconsider. I respect you as one of our most reasonable admins, but using the volunteer ethos as an excuse for ignoring a provocation (the initial remark by Dronebogus) while rebuking the response is not good administration. Nobody is asking you to police the entire topic area, but you should have looked at the context of Fortuna's edit before you issued the warning. LEPRICAVARK (talk) 16:59, 28 March 2025 (UTC)Reply
I have sympathy with any editor whose experiences with Dronebogus elicit such a blunt admission, since in my experience he sometimes lashes out. On the merits, Fortuna imperatrix mundi's comment was a foolish thing to tack on, almost on a par with DB's provocation, IMHO. I trust Barkeep49's judgement, so I defer to their BOLD. A warning of some kind is appropriate, even for an editor with 100K edits. BusterD (talk) 17:31, 28 March 2025 (UTC)Reply
I agree that the warning for Fortuna was reasonable. But the lack of consistency is not acceptable, and when the lack of consistency is brought to the warning admin's attention, doubling-down on the grounds of volunteer ethos is even less acceptable. LEPRICAVARK (talk) 17:38, 28 March 2025 (UTC)Reply
Isn't it in the first link, piped "this comment"? Actually, Talk:Satie displays several instances of less than superb "ethos", before and in the RfC. Let's just hope that it will not happen again. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:29, 28 March 2025 (UTC)Reply
Fortuna was replying to a comment in Dronebogus concluded by saying my personal experience with this user indicates they probably won’t budge. As Fortuna pointed out above, that comment fails to assume good faith. LEPRICAVARK (talk) 18:45, 28 March 2025 (UTC)Reply
I did not and do not find the two comments equivalent and acted accordingly. However, you're correct that something and nothing was not the correct outcome. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 19:44, 28 March 2025 (UTC)Reply
Sometimes, "probably won't budge" is a good thing. I hope that all of us cling stubbornly to our positions about whether copyvios are acceptable, whether unsourced articles are desirable, etc. More often, "probably won't budge" is a statement of fact; for example, one does not expect a POV pusher to change their POV, so you might as well save your (digital) breath because discussion won't change matters.
A few years ago, I saw an editor say something about the need to apply an appropriate amount of tact. (I can't find it right now.) The "probably won't budge" statement does not apply an appropriate amount of tact. However, the statement about it being easy to prove the interlocutor wrong goes beyond just being tactless. Therefore I am not surprised to see a concern raised here but not there.
To jump to my original thought: People do sometimes choose to provide advice where it seems more likely to be useful. Therefore, if two people post comments of dubious tactfulness or civility, and only one gets warned, that could mean that the two comments were not equivalent. (I have made the case for that above.) But it could also mean that the warner has decided that the un-contacted editor "probably won't benefit" from any advice, to adapt one of the disputed phrases. I don't think therefore that you should feel singled out inappropriately. WhatamIdoing (talk) 22:05, 28 March 2025 (UTC)Reply
I'll be transparent here in a way that some might think reflects poorly on me. I had no idea you had renamed. I saw a comment that was "not great but not on its own actionable" followed by an escalation that crossed the line from a user I didn't recognize and had no CT postings (because the filter hits don't come along with a user on a rename). So a "friendly word" with someone who I have no ideas about and who might have no idea of who I am didn't feel like it was going to be preventative. If I'd known who this was I would have indeed chosen a different tact as the best way of getting the outcome I'd hoped for. Barkeep49 (talk) 19:40, 28 March 2025 (UTC)Reply
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