kurt warner? does he or doesnt he?
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Violator79
Take a Hit, Spunker!
Absolutely not.
Because the Cardinals were so mediocore this season, if they win the Super Bowl it will go down as a FLUKE WIN and Warner will not garner as much credit as if he led the Cardinals to a 12-4 record with big blowout wins over regular season opponents.
That's the reality. Now, if the Cardinals REPEAT in 2010...hello Canton.
That's the reality. Now, if the Cardinals REPEAT in 2010...hello Canton.
idk, if u can call a championship win a "fluke" esp, if they beat a great franchise like the steelers
Violator79
Take a Hit, Spunker!
Now that I totally agree with.
This is one of the reasons why they make players wait at least five years after they retire in most sports before they are even eligible for that sport's hall of fame. Unless Warner just tears up the league the next few years there is no way he's going in or deserves to be in the Hall of Fame. After everybody has time to carefully analyze the situation and cooler heads think about it he's not going to be given as much serious consideration. Besides this year can anybody even think of the last time Warner was even a top 10 quarterback in the league. He has two or three great years and a bunch of junk stats. Even a lot of his counting stats are helped because he hasn't played as much as a starter would normally have since he has been in the league, so his bad years haven't drug down the stats of the couple of "greatest show on turf" years as much as they should have.
While Ben Roethlisberger wins games and Super Bowl rings, what may keep him out of the NFL HOF is injuries.
For those who didn't hear the news, he suffered an injury to his ribs yesterday in the Steelers victory over the Ravens. If the Steelers had to play this weekend instead of in two weeks, he might not be able to play.
ChefChiTown
The secret ingredient? MY BALLS
A Championship game is no different than any other game. It is played the same way as regular season games and regular season games can be flukes. For example...
The Cleveland Browns beat the shit out of the defending Super Bowl champion New York Giants this year. Does that mean Cleveland is some sort of great team? No. It was a fluke and they're extremely lucky that things went their way.
The Cardinals have the worst record of a Super Bowl team in history!!! If they win (which they won't), it will be the biggest fluke in Super Bowl history as well.
i disagree...you win a championship, it isnt a fluke...it's like saying all the teams they beat in the playoffs laid down to the cardinals in which i dont believe...you play to win the game, right?
ChefChiTown
The secret ingredient? MY BALLS
So, if I walk up to Mike Tyson and knock him out with one punch, does that make me the Heavyweight Champion or a better boxer, just because I won the fight? No, it just means that I got lucky...a fluke.
The Cardinals had 7 regular seasons loses. They barely won 50% of their games and you think that they would truly be a valid champion if they won the Super Bowl? No, I think not.
But, it doesn't matter, because they're not going to beat the Steelers.
i love how your assuming things...like last year's super bowl where everyone thought the giants never had a shot in hell...but we'll see...cardinals all the way...if they do beat the steelers...a GREAT franchise, that wouldnt make them a valid champion? winning 3 playoff games isnt a fluke...and winning the super bowl, dont think that's a fluke either...like i said...it's not like these teams are laying down to the cardinals...so, no...it's not a fluke
ChefChiTown
The secret ingredient? MY BALLS
The Tampa Bay Rays going to the World Series last year was a fluke and nobody can argue that. Shit like this happens and makes the Championship a joke. Tampa Bay vs. Philadelphia...geez, I wonder who was going to win that one.
The Arizona Cardinals, a team with 7 regular season loses, shouldn't be in the Super Bowl. It is a miracle that they are there and it will take a miracle for them to win it.
Oh, and last year's Giants were a GOOD team. They weren't some 9-7, mediocre team that won a crappy division to make the playoffs...like the Cardinals of this year.
Beating a GREAT franchise does not legitamize anything. The 49ers are a GREAT franchise too. Nothing great about beating them.
One game cannot determine who is the better team. That is what is wrong with the NFL playoffs. If the Patriots and Giants played 100 times, New England would win 98 of those games. Fluke. Same can be said for Arizona and whoever they play.
There is a difference between being the best team, and the hottest team.
that's why they say "any given sunday"...ahh, someone complaining about the playoffs, yet again...no one will ever be happy with the playoffs, like i said before, the cardinals took advantage of the situation, can you blame them? no...and coming into the playoffs, arizona wasnt the hottest team
hey, anything can happen, like i said...upset of the year, last year...if they win, it'll be a miracle, so what? their the champs, bottom line...the end
